We don't carry or represent any information. We are ourselves nothing but patterns. We are not special and we have no soul. We are nothing but flesh and blood. It is our ego and arrogance that makes us think we are more than just that. Agreed that we are complex but not complicated. Evolution does explain how we have developed to become such complex organisms.
Even as science answers many questions today and provides us a platform to find the answer to others, some of you are not satisfied. Instead you require irrational beliefs such as belief that one book is more important than all other knowledge collected by humans. It is regrettable that in today's world, there are still people who believe in santa claus, superstitions, astrology and religion.
If your point is that some time in the beginning there has to be something that created all this, then my question to you is how do you know that still exists. What if your God is dead? I personally think it is ridiculous to even discuss God. Calling myself an atheist would mean giving too much credibility to the idea of God. Before getting too ahead of ourselves and discussing the existence of hidden forces, we need to evaluate if we are even thinking straight.
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We don't carry or represent any information. We are ourselves nothing but patterns.
From wikipedia:
Deoxyribonucleic acid is a nucleic acid containing the genetic instructions used in the development and functioning of all known living organisms (with the exception of RNA viruses). The DNA segments carrying this genetic information are called genes.
The catch is "genetic instructions".
Evolution is a theory that is based on little proof, and is very vague. There are two types of evolution: micro-evolution and macro-evolution. Islam, as a religion, talks about micro-evolution: if a white man goes to live in the tropical climate, he will indeed grow a tan. However, macro-evolution is not deeply founded by experiments, and is based on extrapolating micro-evolution to scales of time that cannot be experimentally achieved.
In simple english - there has been no experiment done where an ape was kept in a cage for a trillion years, and the ape evolved into a Human Being.
Science indeed is very fascinating as it answers many of today's question. But if you look closely, more often than not, it answers how rather than why. How were you born, rather than why were you born. How the planets go in an orbit (gravitational forces) rather than why were they put there in the first place.
Is God Dead? Well, there is a precursor question to this: what is death?? Death, according to my religion, is leaving this planet which is bound by the time-axis.
What is death according to you?? Does it mean the demolition of something created?? But that brings us back to how was this something created??
God is a supreme force, who was never created but has existed at all times. Is this possible? Yes, because time is a concept defined according to events that have happened on planet earth.
P.S. Its important to keep an open mind when reading all these arguments, but your counter-allegations are more than welcome.
When religious people (like the one above) don't understand simple concepts like evolution, you wonder what "enlightment" did they achieve to believe so strongly that God exists.
By dead, I just meant the lack of existence.
pt.1 We are more than patterns, flesh and blood. We are more than rocks that exist or plants an animals that grow and die. We are conscious, we experience pleasure, pain, and we respond to these feelings in more than just an instinctive manner. We are sentient beings capable of perceiving and experiencing more than the sum of our sense-ual data. It is our ability to empathize, to feel as though we are a part of all life that makes us believe we are more than flesh, not the ego.
pt.2 Our transformation to this level of complexity can be explained by natural selection, mutation, and genetic drift. An ape kept in a cage for trillions of years would never evolve because it would not have to adapt to anything, and would not produce offspring that might be different in some way. This example cannot be used to disprove evolution.
pt.3 Science may not have all the answers yet, but neither does religion. Religious thought is based on interpretation, speculation, and reflection. By definition, not proof.
pt.4 The main purpose of religion in society is to provide a code of ethics to live by. it is a welcome path but not a necessary one. The Dalai Lama provides an excellent analogy for the need of religion in society: He states that ethics/morality is like water, society needs these principles to function in a civilized way. Religion is like tea, made from water with other spices and ingredients added. We love tea, like to take it at regular intervals during the day, maybe we crave it or are addicted to it, but we do not need it.
pt. 5 Belief in the existence of god requires faith and nothing more. Theistic philosophy provides all sorts of spiritual benefits and is a powerful tool for the human mind. However, the need to scientifically prove gods existence, or to impose ones beliefs on another, or to assert one religious path as more 'correct' or 'effective' than another is mans failing. In fact, this is an excellent example of mans ego - to take something he cannot understand, interpret it to his advantage, and impose it on those around him.
pt.6 Religion is an aspect of human existence. ONE aspect. One would be stupid to let it dictate every move of your existence. There are some who believe religion tends to make people happier, whether or not this is true is debatable but besides the point. It is a path that is open to every one, and it fulfills an important human need. If it makes you happy, pursue it.
agree with most of the pts above. but religion is not tea, it is more addictive and detrimental than tea. religion can make people happy, but the happiness is not based on realism.
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